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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.bakaitis.com/2007/11/19/return-to-cleveland/comment-page-1/#comment-36941</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found your blog and this entry from the Plain Dealer&#039;s &quot;Blog 5&quot; blog roundup -- interesting stuff!  I agree to an extent, but having recently moved back to Cleveland after living for seven years in the extremely population-dense Washington, DC metro area -- which includes the fastest-growing county in the US, Loudon County, VA -- I can attest that density itself isn&#039;t sufficient for introducing the uniqueness your&#039;e looking for.  DC itself has lots of interesting, diverse things and places, but both the VA and MD suburbs, along the I-66, I-495 and I-95 corridors, is the same smear of sameness you describe here, with big boxes and strip malls.  There are little pockets of uniqueness, but you really have to search for them.

(Maryland is a little better, esp. in the College Park/UMD areas, but not a lot.)

On the other side of things, I spent a while working in living in Frankfurt, Germany in 2002.  Frankfurt is similar in size and density to Cleveland, with the metro-area population about 2.25 million and the city population a bit over half a million.  There, I was able to do things the way you describe -- if things were not in walking distance, they were easily accessible by bus or U-bahn.  Europe generally, I think, has a better attitude towards preserving neighborhoods and making them liveable and walkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found your blog and this entry from the Plain Dealer&#8217;s &#8220;Blog 5&#8243; blog roundup &#8212; interesting stuff!  I agree to an extent, but having recently moved back to Cleveland after living for seven years in the extremely population-dense Washington, DC metro area &#8212; which includes the fastest-growing county in the US, Loudon County, VA &#8212; I can attest that density itself isn&#8217;t sufficient for introducing the uniqueness your&#8217;e looking for.  DC itself has lots of interesting, diverse things and places, but both the VA and MD suburbs, along the I-66, I-495 and I-95 corridors, is the same smear of sameness you describe here, with big boxes and strip malls.  There are little pockets of uniqueness, but you really have to search for them.</p>
<p>(Maryland is a little better, esp. in the College Park/UMD areas, but not a lot.)</p>
<p>On the other side of things, I spent a while working in living in Frankfurt, Germany in 2002.  Frankfurt is similar in size and density to Cleveland, with the metro-area population about 2.25 million and the city population a bit over half a million.  There, I was able to do things the way you describe &#8212; if things were not in walking distance, they were easily accessible by bus or U-bahn.  Europe generally, I think, has a better attitude towards preserving neighborhoods and making them liveable and walkable.</p>
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		<title>By: knwd</title>
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		<dc:creator>knwd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9.5 years in Cincinnati, and I still haven&#039;t found anyplace here that is as cool as the area of Cleveland that you live in.  I still really miss Arabica and Aladdins, and good Chinese food.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, life here is pretty good-- Great friends, amazing church, and I get to ski twice a week all winter long.  (Not to mention that the weather isn&#039;t nearly as windy or rainy here.)

But I miss the kind of coffee shops that are nestled into a pedestrian-friendly neighborhood, that are open late at night, and that are cozy and inviting so that you can spend a couple of hours just hanging out with a cuppa something warm and frothy, a decadent dessert, and a group of friends.  All we have here is friggin&#039; Starbucks, which isn&#039;t any of those things.  Worse yet, they don&#039;t even aspire to be any of those things.  *sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9.5 years in Cincinnati, and I still haven&#8217;t found anyplace here that is as cool as the area of Cleveland that you live in.  I still really miss Arabica and Aladdins, and good Chinese food.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, life here is pretty good&#8211; Great friends, amazing church, and I get to ski twice a week all winter long.  (Not to mention that the weather isn&#8217;t nearly as windy or rainy here.)</p>
<p>But I miss the kind of coffee shops that are nestled into a pedestrian-friendly neighborhood, that are open late at night, and that are cozy and inviting so that you can spend a couple of hours just hanging out with a cuppa something warm and frothy, a decadent dessert, and a group of friends.  All we have here is friggin&#8217; Starbucks, which isn&#8217;t any of those things.  Worse yet, they don&#8217;t even aspire to be any of those things.  *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if I want to leave.  

One option is to travel more often to places that are distinctly different from Cleveland.  

The other option is to look for a job someplace else, but NYC and SFO (examples) are seriously expensive.  I&#039;m not sure if such a move would make financial sense.  (Thus, pointing back to option one as the more likely scenario.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I want to leave.  </p>
<p>One option is to travel more often to places that are distinctly different from Cleveland.  </p>
<p>The other option is to look for a job someplace else, but NYC and SFO (examples) are seriously expensive.  I&#8217;m not sure if such a move would make financial sense.  (Thus, pointing back to option one as the more likely scenario.)</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once they see the lights in the big city it&#039;s hard to bring them back. Looks like someone wants to leave our tiny town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once they see the lights in the big city it&#8217;s hard to bring them back. Looks like someone wants to leave our tiny town.</p>
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